Double Impact: The Inspirational Journey of a Two-Time Nonprofit Founder

Meet Ian Westmoreland, a visionary leader and founder of not one, but two impactful nonprofits - "Mentoring Men" and "Kintsugi Heroes." Join us as we explore Ian's inspiring journey, focusing on empowering and uplifting individuals through mentorship and embracing resilience through the philosophy of Kintsugi, the art of embracing imperfections. Dive into insightful conversations, heartwarming stories, and the transformative power of mentorship and the healing of brokenness. Discover how Ian's dedication is changing lives and leaving a lasting positive impact on our world.

Extended Description: 
Ever wondered about the purpose of life? Join us as we delve into an engaging conversation with Ian, a full-time volunteer who has created a life of service. After reading a book that challenged his perspective on the purpose of life, he was inspired to start two not-for-profit organizations, including a group for young moms and a mentorship program for high school students in Sydney. He emphasizes the profound impact of mentoring, insisting that it requires no special skills, only a deep capacity to care and listen.

Ian shares a poignant story of mentoring a young man who was grappling with the loss of his father. This experience led him to establish Mentoring Men, an organization that provides life-mentoring support to people dealing with job loss, relationship breakdown, loneliness, and isolation. Yet, his journey of giving back doesn't stop there. He also started Kinsugi Heroes, an initiative that shares powerful stories of resilience and triumph over adversity. Ian's own story of battling metastatic melanoma is one of the many tales of resilience that has been shared on this platform.

In our chat with Ian, we underscore the importance of appreciation and recognition, a theme that has been a constant in his mentoring experiences. We invite you, our listeners, to express gratitude to those who have made a difference in your lives. Join us in this wave of kindness; you can get involved and make an impact through our kindness clip segment, the Little Give podcast, and our Facebook group. Tune in to this episode and discover how the power of giving back can change lives - including your own.

Chapters

• 0:09 Life Changing Moments and Giving Back
• 10:03 Driving Single Parents and Mentoring Men
• 18:17 Empowering Stories of Overcoming Adversity
• 26:49 Little Give
• 33:39 Little Give

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:09

Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of Little Give. I want you to meet our guest. Go ahead, tell us who you are, where you're from and what you're all about.

Speaker 2: 0:19

Good morning, cindy, and welcome from Sydney, australia. So I'm Ian, I'm married for 40 years and we have four kids and we have 12 grandchildren. I had a life changing moment on the 10th of September 2013 that motivated me to leave work in May 2014 and become a full time volunteer, and since then I've started two not-for-profit organisations called Mentory Men and Kinsugi Heroes.

Speaker 1: 0:51

Oh wow, oh my goodness, tell us what happened to spark this fire inside of you.

Speaker 2: 0:57

So I get asked this question a lot and I always preface it by saying both the charities I've started Mentory Men and Kinsugi Heroes. They're secular. We don't care what background or beliefs or cultures or languages or gender anyone is. We are welcome to engage in the program. Personally, I'm a Christian and the book that I read my youngest daughter had given me was called Sunstand Still. So it's a book by an American pastor. His name is Steve Fertick, and what I read that morning and I've got the book in front of me I highlighted what it was and I should mention the lead up to this.

Speaker 2: 1:35

I'd managed to work my way into fairly senior, well-paid positions as an IT manager, and the lead up was I've been meditating that there's more to life than just making money and delivering software changes. And the author was questioning, I guess, the meaning of life or purpose for Christians. And as I'm reading this, I'm going through ticking them off. And it said we feel like we're doing our part as long as we live decent lives and tick, stay out of trouble.

Speaker 2: 2:04

Tick, it was a bit of a rascal as a late teenager but tick Pay taxes. Tick, have babies. Tick, make a living. Tick, buy a boat. Tick Even had a boat. And this is what got me. He said hit age 59 and a half, collect retirement die. Now he'd already got me with all these items because I resonated with all of them and then I thought that hit age 59 and a half. I was born on the 10th of March 1954. I was 59 and a half to the day that I read that. And who hits 59 and a half collect retirement die? No one in Australia does so. That really got my attention and that was the first of a series of events or messages that indicated to me that the purpose for my life was going to be different from what I've been doing, which is focused on money, but to actually focus on giving back.

Speaker 1: 2:57

Wow, what an incredible story. What a chance to read that and then have all of those things like this book was actually speaking to you, wow. So tell us what happened next.

Speaker 2: 3:11

Well, the next event a couple of days later I was out with my wife. We had a chat and she saw someone on the table. She knew this woman, so she went over and started chatting to her and when I came back I said, oh, who was that? And she said, oh, that was the scripture teacher who had given my daughter the, taught my daughter and the one who'd given me the book. I went over to introduce myself to her and this woman just exuded love. She talked about two key things for that meeting. One that she and her husband were supporting a young mum's group, just giving them some love. They put on a brunch for them and imagine many of these girls unmarried under a lot of support and just to show some love. You said we can't keep up with the demand, we're turning young girls away. And I said, well, look, I've just got this message to do something more significant. So for the next few years my wife and I funded for that young mum's group to run an extra day a week. That group is still running.

Speaker 2: 4:09

And the second thing she mentioned was mentoring at a mentoring program. So I signed up for that as well and I did the mentor training course and it was mentoring young kids in Sydney high schools and I just I loved the training, I loved supporting these, these young students, so I signed up at multiple schools. I was doing multiple schools around Sydney. Then I found out about another program it actually initiated from Merica, called Kids Hope in primary schools, so I signed up for that as well. And then I found out about another program called Coach, which is supporting the family environment, and I I loved doing that. It was just incredibly fulfilling. One of the most fulfilling things I've done was just being there to support. There was always young boys there was, interestingly, there's far more women volunteering to mentor kids than men. But most of the kids wanting mentoring were boys and when you think about it, there's a marriage break up. The kids usually go with the mum. There's a lack of a male role model. There was a huge demand for male mentors.

Speaker 1: 5:19

Wow. So you saw this need and then you decided to make a choice to go ahead and help with that. What were some of the first steps that you took towards that goal?

Speaker 2: 5:29

So first off was to go through the training course. It's interesting often, as men, when we find out about a situation, often our instinct is to try and fix the problem. So it's for men not to fix the problem, just to actually listen and be there to support. So that was one of the key lessons that I learned. I learned that the power of just being there. We don't need to be a genius.

Speaker 2: 5:55

In fact, on behalf of the organisation, I won a volunteer mentoring award and was interviewed and they said what does it take to be a good mentor? And I said well, it's just two things Do you care and can you listen. And if you could do those things, then you can be a good mentor. You don't need to be a genius, you don't need to have all the answers In fact, it's best if you don't have all the answers so just the ability to ask questions. There's been a few lessons as well. I guess I used to see mentoring as this face-to-face thing and for some people that's confronting particularly men. We don't like people seeing the emotion in our eyes, so it could be just going from walk side by side, and post-COVID, the mentoring's got a lot more around virtual environments like this. So that's though for the kids mentoring programmes. It's predominantly been at the same location.

Speaker 1: 6:49

So how do you think that's changed the way that you mentor them, whether it be virtual or in-person?

Speaker 2: 7:01

I've realised I lack confidence. At the start I thought, to be honest, I wasn't really good enough to be a mentor. But as it's gone on and as Can I share an amazing experience that happened recently. Yes, so about three months ago, the organisation I mentored the kids through, the Rays Foundation, contacted me and they said a guy you mentored in 2015 has contacted us and he's asked us if we would give him your contact details. They said sure, and we met up for coffee and he wanted to tell me the impact I had on his life.

Speaker 2: 7:46

Now, from my point of view. We had a we'd chat. We'd talk about sport, talk a little bit about his family environment. He used to take a lot of days off school and I guess one of the things I saw was that early on, sometimes he'd miss the mentoring session but as it went on, he would take over days off school. Anyway, it was just brilliant. He was going through a lot of difficulties at home like a self-esteem thought, he was going to finish up in jail, and he then went on to make a promotional video for the mentoring organisation and I actually played that for someone yesterday and throwing tears. It's an incredibly impactful story and the joy. That brings to me the pride I have in this young guy. He's gone on, he's a carpenter and there's a huge demand for tradies and carpenters in Australia at the moment. So he's doing really well and just but to get that he didn't want to come back and just say the impact it had. So it's pride Absolutely.

Speaker 1: 8:49

Yeah, and just you know, not that you need kudos or recognition, but just to know yourself that all the effort and time and everything you're putting in it's paying off for somebody.

Speaker 3: 8:59

Hi, my name is Justin Clark and I'm the president of the board of directors for Driving Single Parents, a 501C3 non-profit serving the citizens of San Antonio and Bear County, Texas. I'm here today to tell you a little bit about the great work that our organisation is doing for the citizens of San Antonio. What you're about to see is just a few photos and videos of the way that we're changing lives for single parents in and around San Antonio, Texas. Our first giveaway took place in April of 2017, just one short month after the formation of our organisation. John, a Bear County resident, was the victim of a horrible drunk driver incident. He and his daughter survived the crash and we were so proud to give our first car to this deserving family. Fast forward to 2020, a very difficult year for non-profits, we were able to secure four vehicles for single parents in need. Our organisation, including our board of directors, list of partners and portfolio of people we've been able to help in San Antonio, continues to grow, and it's all thanks to donors and local community organisations that have helped us along the way. This giveaway took place in 2021 and shows that we continue to help single parents even after the struggles brought about by COVID-19. Because of limited funds and the overwhelming need.

Speaker 3: 10:34

We at Driving Single Parents are incredibly selective with the people we help. Some are victims of domestic violence. Others had a spouse pass away tragically or otherwise fell on hard times. These single parents show adversity in the face of challenge and aren't looking for a handout. We offer a hand up and help get them back in the driver seat. Many of the single parents we help go on to graduate college, get promotions, get married, mentor others and some have even been so touched by the gift we gave them that they have decided to join our board of directors to pay it forward and ensure the continued growth of our organisation. If you would like to help our organisation continue to grow and continue to help single parents in need in San Antonio, Texas, and Bear County, Texas, we would really appreciate your support. Please visit us online at wwwdrivingsingleparentsorg. Thank you. Now it's time for Little Give Clip Quest.

Speaker 1: 11:45

Hello everyone and welcome to this week's Clip Quest. So what I want you to do is I want you to go back to Episode 12. Watch it, then email me at Cindy at LittleGivecom explaining why it was so important for our guest to teach her sons how to shake hands properly. If you email me and you get the answer correct, I will feature you on a future episode. I can't wait to see you on the show.

Speaker 2: 12:09

Cindy, could I just share how that then lead to mentoring men? Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 1: 12:12

Is that because you talk about?

Speaker 2: 12:13

the lessons. So I was mentoring a young guy in one of the schools and in our discussion he shared with me that his father had suicided, his mum, had an addiction and was in and out of rehab and he was living with his grandparents, which he hated. And then he just turned it. He looked me in the eyes and he started crying and he said Ian, help me Now, what can you do in that situation? We meet at school. We finished the mentoring session and I met with the program counsellor and everything's confidential other than what you share with the counsellor, and I raised the situation with her and looking for advice and she surprised me. She said Ian, are you okay? And I just started crying myself. I get emotional thinking about it now.

Speaker 2: 13:08

I took a couple of months. I was flat and I thought I need to have a mentor as well. I want to share this and I've been married for 40 years, but it's not the sort of thing I can share with my wife. My wife is pretty tough. I actually wanted a mentor and I should explain mentoring. Most people, when you mention mentoring, they think in business, mentoring it's someone with acquired skills and knowledge and experience who guides, directs and advises someone else. What I'm talking about I call it life mentoring is predominantly listening, encouraging, supporting. So I did a Google search looking for the nearest organisation that provided life mentoring to men and was surprised and really disappointed to find there was nothing suitable. As a demographic, men struggle the most other demographics we often struggle with the shame of vulnerability. So it made me to write a proposal to establish an organisation called Mentoring Men, and then a couple of these other key steps I shared at the start happened and it led to me making a decision to actually launch Mentoring Men, to do everything that I could to make it happen. I probably should mention one of those steps.

Speaker 2: 14:26

I got an invitation to go to a local meeting where our federal member of parliament, julian Lisa, was speaking at an event aimed at promoting suicide awareness, and I don't know why, but I took a manila folder with my proposal to establish Mentoring Men there, and when he got up to speak, he shared about the suicide of his father over 20 years ago and how, every day, he thought about that and how he missed some signs, and so he. What he was trying to do was to get representatives from every community group in his electorate To do this discourse and hopefully prevent some suicides had a huge impact on me. As soon as it finished, I made a beeline for him and I said, jillian, that was amazing. But I said he's, you know, heartbreaking. But I said where was the support that could have helped prevent your father getting to the point of suicide? And I I mentioned mentoring mentor me got it straight away. You see, look, come and see him in his office. He signed on as our ambassador and he launched we did the official launch of mentoring man. He's got us into federal parliament. He's been an amazing support all along the way and that's was how mentoring men started.

Speaker 2: 15:44

So it's a free program. It's based on training volunteers like me through our own mentor training course and through suicide prevention, and Then we provide life mentoring support to another bloke who may be going through challenges like job loss, relationship breakdown, wildliness, isolation, and it's over a long Six month or longer period. And then trust develops and you get to the point. You know I'll hear something like I and I've never told anyone this before but, or, Ian, you know more about the real me now than the mates I've had for 20 or 30 years. I should mention. At the moment, mentoring men only operates officially in Australia. I've actually mentoring young guy in South Africa and Johannesburg and and but that's the plan is to make to have the mentoring men go global. As I said, free program and it's Thousands of men engage in Australia.

Speaker 1: 16:43

That's wonderful. I love how you saw a need and you found a way to meet it. You know you could have easily have just. You know you thought, well, that'd be a good idea and just moved on about your life. But instead you saw this need and you said, well, I have to do something. And then you met the need. So now a lot of people out there can access your resources and I'm sure it's helping people all across Australia. That's incredible.

Speaker 2: 17:05

Yeah, and see the similarities between you and I, because you shared a little bit of your story with me and you're doing exactly the same thing and I love it this passion To actually we identify something and to give something of ourselves, to give back and and make a difference. So, yeah, Absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 1: 17:22

It's all about making those choices. You know you have all of us. It's not that you and I are extraordinary people. We're just ordinary people who made a choice, saw a need and and works hard to make that happen. And anybody can do that, I believe.

Speaker 2: 17:36

Yes, I agree.

Speaker 2: 17:37

Yes, so tell us about your next venture so after mentoring men grew in momentum and we had a number of people engaged and supported it financially, I Sipped away from all the operational side, so there's now a dedicated paid team. I Should mention I've been a full-time volunteer since 2013. So I everything I do was I do as a volunteer and I'm still an ambassador for mentoring men. But that freed up a little bit of time and I thought back to an idea I had back in 1993. I should maybe set the scene as a.

Speaker 2: 18:17

As a teenager and even into my early 20s, I was someone who lacked self-esteem and confidence. It was, it was a significant issue for me, and later on I Started to read more and more books Uplifting books, overcoming adversity story, books like Nelson Mandela story and it gave me, it helped Increase my confidence. For if Nelson Mandela can endure the horrendous situation he had of the years in jail and the abuse and all that, it lifted me. So I had this idea why don't we get people capture stories of people who've overcome adversity, to give hope and inspiration to others? Now? At the time I didn't have the confidence. I didn't have the time or the money to do anything, but I again. I wrote a proposal and I sent that proposal to three Australian community leaders, hoping they would they would do something, and one of them, a famous Australian entrepreneur called Dick Smith, took the time to send me back a handwritten note. He said Ian, this is a great idea. And then he said you do it. And so it sat there for 30 years. So I stepped aside from all the the labor of operation, of mentoring men, and I thought I'm gonna do this now. By this stage, I built up some connections, some really strong people on my team, if you like it, who were supporting me, so I let them know what I was gonna do and about.

Speaker 2: 19:47

In early 2022. A guy rang me said Ian, I've got the name for your project. I Said, yeah, what's that? He said I can sugi. And I said I've never heard of it. And the legend is that there was a it's a Japanese term. There's a Japanese emperor had some valuable pottery, like my coffee cup here. In fact, there's much better pictures if people want to look online.

Speaker 2: 20:12

But over time it chipped and cracked and showed the signs of wear and tear and he said to his craftsman fix it, make it look brand new so you can't see there was any damage. And they couldn't do it, but what they could do was repair it and highlight the damage that have been there as part of the repair, using this precious metal like gold. And now, when you look at it, it's far more beautiful, it's far more valuable than what it was before, and there's a metaphor there for the Cindy's, for the ends in life that the adversity we go through actually increases our value, increases our beauty, increases our resilience. And we we kept the original goal, which is the stories that we capture provide hope and inspiration to people experiencing challenges. And I've added another goal to that Do we help people reframe what they've been through the adversity to actually see the asset, the hidden value in that, and it's amazing how often that happens.

Speaker 2: 21:14

So from 1993 to 2023, technology's changed, so the way we do it. We have a relaxed conversation like this. It's recorded, we have someone who edits it and we publish those conversations as video and audio podcasts. But I'm also still really keen on the book and we've got a, an author in New Zealand who takes a transcript of the stories, and our first two books are near completion. The first one we published in November.

Speaker 1: 21:52

I love it. I love how you're taking these people who have been through so much and then you're just highlighting them in this way and it's not, from what I understand, it's not just a podcast or a recording but, like you said, you have that also component of the book. So there's lots of ways to get all the information in several different ways. What about the pottery? Is that something you guys sell?

Speaker 2: 22:12

No, I bought it. You can buy these Kansuki Hero kits, but I'm not very artistic. I was hoping my grandkids would do it, but I've no, you can buy them, but no, I haven't done one. I'm embarrassed to say that, but I would love to do one and actually, instead of holding up my two dollar coffee cup, actually hold up a bit of pottery that I or someone in my family has created. But they run courses on it in Australia. I assume they do the same thing. It's a very therapeutic thing to do.

Speaker 1: 22:47

That's awesome. So where can people find you if they want to know more about mentoring men?

Speaker 2: 22:53

Mentory men, the website is mentorymenorgau, and for Kansuki Heroes it's kansukiheroescomau Sydney. Can I just share a little bit about a couple of the stories.

Speaker 1: 23:05

Yes, I love stories. Please do.

Speaker 2: 23:08

So the stories that we've captured cover a number of different themes already and the very first one was around grief. But we cover stories around domestic violence, around addiction, around physical disability, around mental illness, around trauma. And about a month after starting officially launching Kansuki Heroes, I got diagnosed with a cancer called metastasized melanoma and I obviously told friends and family, but I kept the rest of it quiet and someone on the Kansuki Heroes board challenged me and said Ian, kansuki Heroes is all about sharing overcome adversity stories and you haven't issued anything online. And I thought about it and I decided I would share this journey and let people know where I was at. And it was amazing.

Speaker 2: 24:00

This woman who used to work with me about 10 years ago. A number of people reached out, but she reached out to me and she had the same type of cancer, but much worse. She was stage four and she shared that there's been some developments in the medical field around treating this type of cancer and she went through. She was a pioneer going through this thing called immunotherapy and when she had it, it's worse. She couldn't even walk across the room. She was told by the doctor basically go home and write your will, and this woman literally climbs mountains. She's a mountaineer, among other things so she went on a podcast with me and the hope that that gives. So I'm at the start of this journey, looking down about the start of the immunotherapy treatment. I had some surgery to cut out the cancer and some lymph nodes.

Speaker 2: 24:59

I posted the picture online. It's a bit graphic, but to be at the start of that journey and have someone 10 years down the track, it's the hope that gave me and I see that as it just shows the power of someone else's story to help us and with serious medical issues diseases the mental attitude we have is often really important. It's a key factor. If we have a positive outlook, then the prognosis is much better. I mean, there's obviously a bunch of other things to do, so I guess to me that just shows the power of that storytelling and my passion at the moment. We will cover any overcoming adversity themes and if people want to contact us with different themes, please email me.

Speaker 2: 25:50

The areas that I'm really passionate about at the moment is around domestic violence. I want to use Kinsuki Heroes to help prevent domestic violence. In Australia there's a very strong focus around support, more shelters, and clearly we need that. I want to take it back. Let's help stop getting to that point. I want to do a series on living with cancer because I know the benefit it provided me and I know the benefit to provide other people and also feel caught around disabilities. I want to reframe how people see people with disabilities, so I'll cover all things, but they're the three things that are my focus at the moment.

Speaker 4: 26:32

Hi, my name is Andrew Fraley and I believe that sometimes we all need a little bit of help. If you're in the San Antonio community and we need some legal help, call me at 210-725-4658. Now it's time for Little. Give Kindness Clips.

Speaker 1: 26:53

Hello everyone. I wanted to chat with you about our Kindness Clip segment, so I need a little help from my audience. So what I'm looking for are short little videos of you talking about a time that someone was kind to you, or maybe there's a time that you were kind to someone else. Share those stories with us. You can email that to me at Cindy at littlegifcom. You can also hashtag Little Give online or you can just find me on any social media platform and tag me under Cindy Whitman. My name is spelled C-I-N-D-Y-W-I-T-T-E-M-A-N.

Speaker 1: 27:31

Thank you all so much for participating and spreading that kindness and I can't wait to feature your clip on a future episode.

Speaker 1: 27:37

I love that. I mean you have a lot to give and you have the kind of heart that just keeps expanding. I know when we talked before in the pre-show, I was just so touched by your story and touched by the fact that you could have easily stopped with the one thing, but you didn't. Then you went to the next thing and you're doing this whole other part component and then, once you got cancer, you can say, well, sorry, I've got to stop doing everything, but you didn't. You went on to do more and you keep coming up with new ideas and you keep coming up with new passions and you keep finding new ways to help people. Which is why I really wanted to have you on this platform is because that's what it's all about. The show's all about the Little Give, but all of those things that you're doing are really adding up and even in themselves are big gifts. So thank you for all that you do to help others.

Speaker 2: 28:23

Thanks, cindy. I really appreciate the opportunity to share this story. Hopefully, people will be uplifted by what we're saying here.

Speaker 1: 28:32

I have absolutely no doubt that they definitely will be. So there's two questions I ask all of my guests and I want to ask them of you Can you give the audience an example of a little thing that they can do in their community themselves? That might just be something little but can really maybe make an impact.

Speaker 2: 28:49

I think it comes back to. The key lesson I've learned from mentoring is the power of listening. In our mentor training course we include this poem written by an American called Ray Horton in 1979 and it's called Just Listen. I encourage viewers to drag that out and just see the power of listening. So I would encourage your audience to in the conversations, all of a sudden something would be said and you think, wow, I need to stop all the other thinking and just listen, maybe ask a question around that and then just listen and see where that conversation hits to. Then we think about the next thing we're going to say, when I'm actually paying, when I'm actively listening to what the person is saying. So I would encourage you to listen and, like that example I gave before with the young mentee, you just don't know the impact you're going to have. You could save, you could transform someone's life.

Speaker 1: 29:52

What a simple but profound answer to the question that listening it's really. Everybody wants to be seen, everybody wants to be heard and so just that little give of just listening to someone and letting them know that you care can really, really make a big impact. So I love your example. Can you give the audience an example of a time in your life where somebody did something little for you but it really made a big impact, even if you never got to tell them?

Speaker 2: 30:16

thank you, Because this I mentioned the same thing again this young mentee who took the time to come back and just tell me that it made a difference. It was like for him it was just showing some appreciation. I get emotional when I think about that. The impact. It's just so motivating. I don't know if it's right. I feel proud. I'm proud that the impact I had, I'm proud of him. So just him saying thank you to me and it doesn't get much better than helping someone else in life and I'm absolutely chuffed this happens. So yeah.

Speaker 1: 31:01

Wow, yeah, that one thank you and recognition can really really make a big impact. So if anybody in our audience has somebody who did something for them that touched them, go and say thank you, write them a letter, give them a call, send them a text message, send them an email, anything. Just make sure that you give those things, because it really can be the fuel that that person needs to keep going and keep giving. So I would encourage all of our audience to do that. Well, I really have loved our conversation today. Thank you so much for being on with us. I'm so grateful. I think you're doing incredible things out there. Why don't you tell the audience some parting words and then once again where they can reach you?

Speaker 2: 31:41

I just want to thank you for this opportunity. I love what you're doing there. To reach me the best way, I'm in Australia, so probably email, because I know your show goes all around the world. So by email address is Ian at kinsugiheroescomau.

Speaker 1: 32:02

Awesome If they want to go and make a donation. I would definitely encourage our audience. If you love these nonprofits that he's working with, please go make a donation. A dollar, five dollars can really really make a big difference, a big impact multiplied by the number of people we have watching the show. So please go make that donation. Can you tell them where the best place to donate would be?

Speaker 2: 32:24

So the best place is on our homepage and if you go down to the bottom of the homepage, there's a spot there for donating. And my big dream with Kinsuki Heroes is that imagine a future where, all around the world, a group of people get together, maybe facilitated, and people share stories and listen to other people's stories. We get back to the village concept that I grew up with and we're going to need financial support to help make that happen, but that's my long-term dream, long after I'm gone, that that would be a legacy that we help get communities back talking and listening to each other.

Speaker 1: 33:04

I love that. I have no doubt that you will accomplish that. Can you spell the website information out to the audience so they can write it down?

Speaker 2: 33:12

Yeah, so it's kinsukiheroescomau. That's an Australian accent here K-I-N-T-S-U-G-I-H-E-R-O-E-Scomau.

Speaker 1: 33:26

Awesome. Okay Well, thank you so much for being on today. I will definitely be following your journey. I really appreciate all of your time and you've been such a huge asset to this show today. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2: 33:36

Thank you, cindy, really appreciate it. Thank you.

Speaker 1: 33:39

Thank you so much for watching this episode of Little Give. If you would like to learn more about how I highlight ordinary people doing extraordinary things to help others, or maybe you'd like to be a guest, or maybe you know a nonprofit that you would like to see featured on a future episode of Little Give, you can find all the information on our website at littlegivecom. If you'd like to get involved with our kindness clip segment, please do send in those videos, send them via email to Cindy at littlegivecom, or you can tag us on any social media under Cindy Whitman or hashtag Little Give. If you'd like to know more about our podcast, you can also find us on all major streaming platforms under Little Give podcast. Please do find our Facebook group under Little Give TV show and join it. We'd love to keep you up to date with future episodes. Thank you all so much for watching and I can't wait to highlight the next ordinary person doing extraordinary things to help others. See you next time.